City of Brigantine's Personal Meeting Room
Council adopted a budget focused on reducing debt reliance and stabilizing future tax impacts, and approved a series of infrastructure and operational contracts. Council also passed a resolution supporting state bills for coastal municipalities' priority on environmental loan principal forgiveness, discussed beach improvements (including seasonal vehicle rentals and phased new beach bathrooms), and heard public concerns about utility solicitations, the city surplus, and a required water meter relocation.
Key points
Council adopted a budget aimed at setting aside money to reduce reliance on debt and stabilize future tax increases.0:00 ↗
Council unanimously passed a resolution supporting Assembly Bill 1845 and Senate Bill 1608 to prioritize principal forgiveness for coastal municipalities on environmental infrastructure loans.1:30 ↗
A bulkhead contract award was authorized (Atlantic Marine Construction) with a not-to-exceed amount of $153,500.6:02 ↗
Work change order for the sanitary sewer replacement (phase one) was approved, showing a net increase of $379,118.98 to address drainage and emergency repairs.7:32 ↗
City announced plan to install two upgraded ADA-compliant beach bathrooms this summer and two next summer (phased approach) because initial cost estimates for four were higher than expected.25:50 ↗
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Topics with timestamps
Budget and fiscal strategy
0:00adopted budget emphasizes reducing debt reliance by setting aside funds, supporting infrastructure, and aiming to stabilize future tax impacts.
State bill support for coastal loan forgiveness
1:30Council passed a resolution backing state legislation to give DEP and the NJ Infrastructure Bank priority for principal forgiveness on environmental infrastructure loans for coastal municipalities.
Infrastructure contracts and equipment
3:00Council authorized multiple public works contracts and equipment purchases, including VFD replacement, lift station service changes, base station installation, and residential meters.
Sewer and drainage work
7:32A change order increasing the sanitary sewer replacement project by $379,118.98 was approved to cover drainage improvements and emergency repairs (including 38th Street).
Beach operations and facilities
9:03Council continued the seasonal practice of renting beach vehicles (estimated $31,710) and announced a phased plan to add ADA-compliant beach bathrooms, two this summer and two next year.
Public concerns: utilities and e-bike regulations
18:13Council members are pursuing details from South Jersey Gas on delivery charge increases and warned residents about changing e-bike regulations and the need for state guidance.
Decisions / votes
- 0:00Adopted the city's budget focused on setting aside funds to reduce debt reliance and stabilize taxes.
- 1:30Adopted a resolution supporting Assembly Bill 1845 and Senate Bill 1608 regarding priority principal forgiveness for coastal municipalities' environmental infrastructure loans.
- 3:00Authorized contract with EBS Electrical Inc. for replacement of variable frequency drives at Well House No. 8 ($14,450).
- 3:00Authorized contract with Northeastern Electrical and GC Services for service change at the North Shore Lift Station ($18,502.47).
- 4:31Authorized contract with Core Maine LP for new base station installation ($22,187.10) and a separate contract with Core Maine LP for residential meters and radios ($13,080).
- 6:02Authorized award of contract to Atlantic Marine Construction for bulkhead installation at Ocean Drive West and Bay Court (not to exceed $153,500).
- 7:32Approved work change order No. 1 for the sanitary sewer replacement project phase one (net increase $379,118.98) to address drainage and emergency repair work.
- 9:03Authorized rental agreement for seasonal vehicles for beach patrol, beach control, and public works (estimated $31,710).
Public comment
Resident reported receiving a solicitation letter promising to hold utility rates low and asked council if it was legitimate; council asked the resident to bring in the letter for review and warned against signing up before verifying.
Resident questioned the city's practice of carrying a large surplus and whether leaving nearly $5M in surplus from $9.5M is fair to taxpayers; auditor/council noted surplus helps bond rating and fiscal strength.
Representative of a four-unit condo association said a city letter requires relocating their water meter to the curb, citing cost (~$2,300 materials; quotes >$5,000 labor) and alleged lack of clear ordinance for existing properties; city staff responded they will not enforce the 90-day threat while working toward a resolution and will review ownership/legal issues with the attorney.
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we're facing today and the responsibility we have to plan for the future. Over the past several weeks, we have had the opportunity to review this budget in detail and the approach the approach remains consistent. We are addressing rising costs while also putting a long-term financial strategy in place. Most importantly, we are now taking actions to change how we fund projects by beginning to set aside money to reduce our reliance on debt. This is a critical step towards strengthening our financial position and helping to stabilize future tax increases. This budget was built with a clear focus on balance. It supports necessary investments in our infrastructure, including our roads, beaches, flood mitigation, and recreation, while also recognizing the impact on our taxpayers. No one wants to raise taxes, but we are committed to making thoughtful decisions that protect the long-term financial health of this city. This is a responsible budget and it puts Brigantine in a stronger position moving forward. If there's no other comments, we have roll call. You. Yes. Letieri. Yes. Haynie. Yes. Virgilio. Yes. Kane. Yes. Reardon. Yes. Mayor Sera. Yes. Motion carried. All right, next up we have resolution uh 2026-113. We have resolution number 26-114. This is a resolution supporting assembly bill number 1845 and senate bill number 1608 to require DEP and New Jersey Infrastructure Bank to provide priority for principal forgiveness on environmental infrastructure project loans to municipalities in coastal areas. The motion second. I'll get Thanks. Any questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? You. Yes. Letieri. Yes. Haynie. Yes. Virgilio. Yes. Kane. Yes. Reardon Yes. >> Mayor Sarah Yes. Motion carried. >> [clears throat] >> Finally reached the age where I got to wear these little cheaters. All right, I just can't see them anymore. I need larger print [laughter] All right, so we got uh resolution All right, so we got resolution number 2026-115. This is a resolution authorizing the loan of beach badges to the Community Presbyterian Church. We have a motion second. I'll make that motion. Second. Questions or comments? It's what we do every year, right? Yes. Yeah, we do it every year. Yeah. All right. Questions or comments? No comments? Can we have roll call? You Yes. >> Lattieri Yes. Haynie Yes. >> Virgilio Yes. Kane Yes. >> Reardon Yes. >> Mayor Sarah Yes. >> Motion carried. All right. We have resolution 2026-116. This is a resolution adopting the Brigantine Employee Handbook as amended to comply with the New Jersey Family Leave Act. We have a motion second. >> So moved. Second. Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? You Yes. Lattieri Yes. Haynie Yes. >> Virgilio Yes. Kane Yes. Reardon Yes. >> Mayor Sarah Yes. Motion carried. Resolution 2026-117. This is a resolution authorizing a contract with EBS Electrical Inc. for the replacement of variable frequency drives at well house number eight this in the amount of $14,450. We have a motion second. So moved. Second. Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? You Yes. Lattieri Yes. Haynie Yes. Virgilio Yes. Kane Yes. Reardon Yes. >> Mayor Sarah Yes. Motion carried. Resolution 2026-118. This is a resolution authorizing a contract with Northeastern uh Electrical and GC Services for service change at the North Shore Lift Station. This is in the amount of $18,502.47. We have a motion second. I'll make that motion. Second. All right, we have motion and second. Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? You. Yes. Mr. Leary. Yes. Mr. Kane. Yes. Mr. Virgilio. Yes. Mr. Kane. Yes. Mr. Reardon. Yes. Mayor Sarah. Yes. >> Motion carried. Resolution 2026-119. This is a resolution authorizing a contract with Core Maine LP for the new base station installation. This is in the amount of $22,187.10. We have motion and second. I'll make that motion. Second. Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? You. Yes. Mr. Leary. Yes. Mr. Kane. Yes. Mr. Virgilio. Yes. Mr. Kane. Yes. Mr. Reardon. Yes. Mayor Sarah. Yes. >> Motion carried. Resolution 2026-120. This is a resolution authorizing a contract with Core Maine LP for residential meters and radios. This is in the amount of $13,080. We have motion and second. I'll make that motion. Second. Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? You. Yes. Mr. Leary. Yes. Mr. Kane. Yes. Mr. Virgilio. Yes. Mr. Kane. Yes. Mr. Reardon. Yes. Mayor Sarah. Yes. Motion carried. Uh we have resolution 2026-121. This is a resolution amending uh resolution 2026-32 to the correct fiscal year. This is uh from 26 to 27. We have motion and second. I'll move. Second. Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? You. Yes. Mr. Leary. Yes. Mr. Kane. Yes. Mr. Virgilio. Yes. Mr. Kane. Yes. Mr. Reardon. Yes. Mayor Sarah. Yes. Motion carried. Resolution 2026-122. This is a resolution authorizing the city manager to sign and execute any documents necessary in connection with a waterfront development application for property located at 5104 Ocean Drive South, Block 3 4301, Lot 22. We have motion and second. I'll move. Second. Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? New, yes. Letiri? Yes. Haynie? Yes. >> Virgilio? Yes. Kane? Yes. Reardon? Yes. Mayor Sarah? Yes. >> Motion carried. Resolution 2026-123. This is a resolution authorizing the city manager to sign and execute any documents necessary in connection with a waterfront development application for property located at 5114 Ocean Drive South, block 43 of two, lot four. We have a motion, second. I'll make that motion. Second. Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? New, yes. Letiri? Yes. Haynie? Yes. Virgilio? Yes. Kane? Yes. Reardon? Yes. >> Mayor Sarah? Yes. Motion carried. Resolution 2026-124. This is a resolution authorizing the award of contract to Atlantic Marine Construction for bulkhead installation at Ocean Drive West and Bay Court. Uh this is the amount not to exceed 153,500. We have a motion, second. So moved. Second. Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? New, yes. Letiri? Yes. Haynie? Yes. Virgilio? Yes. Kane? Yes. Reardon? Yes. Mayor Sarah? Yes. Motion carried. Resolution 2026-125. This is a resolution authorizing work change order number one for the sanitary sewer replacement project phase one. Uh this is a net increase of 379,118.98. Uh can we have a motion, second? So moved. Second. So just to let people know what this is for is um this is for some of the drainage work that we're doing up at the north. We wanted to make sure that uh before we paved the road that there's not areas of that road where the water just sits, so this will help the water run uh to where it needs to get to. And this also includes the emergency repair work that was done on 38th Street, so that's the the increase in this one. So if there's no questions or comments, can we have roll call? You? Yes. >> Luttrell? Yes. Maney? Yes. >> Giglia? Yes. Kane? Yes. Roden? Yes. >> Mayor Sarah? Yes. >> Councilwoman Sherry? Resolution 2026-126. This is a resolution authorizing a refund of an overpayment for a rental registration fee. Do I have a motion second? I'll move. Second. Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? You? Yes. Luttrell? Yes. Maney? Yes. >> Giglia? Yes. Kane? Yes. Roden? Yes. Mayor Sarah? Yes. Resolution 2026-127. This is a resolution authorizing a contract with Ford Main LP for census analytics, leasing, extended warranty. This is the amount of $33,887. Do I have a motion second? Second. Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? You? Yes. Luttrell? Yes. Maney? Yes. Giglia? Yes. Kane? Yes. Roden? Yes. Mayor Sarah? Yes. Councilwoman Sherry? Resolution 2026-128. This is a resolution authorizing the execution of an agreement for the rental of vehicles during the summer season for beach patrol, beach control, which is our beach fee office, and public works. This is will be in the amount of $31,710. Do we have a motion second? I'll make that motion. Second. Uh just to let people know, this is something we started to do um was just last year, right out? Yes. Started to do this last season. Um it's made a big impact. Uh we get vehicles where in the past we're buying vehicles for the beach. And you know you have vehicles out on the beach, they don't last long. What we do now is we rent them for the season. We use them. At the end of the season, we turn them back in. Um long term, this will be a big savings for the city cuz we won't have all the maintenance and repair of those vehicles. But it makes sure that um the beach vehicles we use are always in good working conditions. So, this is a great and I want to give credit to Al Stanley for coming up with this. So, thank you very much for helping us save money. We appreciate it. Uh if there's no questions or comments, do we have roll call? Yes, Mr. Harry. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Resolution 2026-129. This is a resolution authorizing a contract with Blackjack Construction for various municipal paving. This is the amount of $18,284.76. Do we have a motion and a second? So moved. Second. This is just um various repair work that we've done on the avenue. Atlantic City Avenue is a county road. We've had to dig it up to do some repairs. This is covering that repair work. That's all this is. Uh if there's no questions or comments, do we have roll call? Yes, Mr. Harry. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Uh next up we have our consent agenda. We have the Elks noise ordinance extension, the POCC Kwanzaa event, and welcome summer bonfire. Do we have a motion and a second? I'll make that motion. Second. Questions or comments? Seeing none, do we have roll call? Yes, Mr. Harry. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. All right, this time we're going to our council manager committee discussions. Anything for us, ma'am? Nothing at this time. Thank you very much. Thank you. Over to our department heads. Start with our deputy mayor. I'd first like to thank our management team and Leon for the hard work working on the budget. It's a very responsible budget and [snorts] it's going to set us up for the future and allow us to maintain a good fund balance. Uh golf course was closed yesterday and half of today for uh so they could aerify and top dress the greens. It is they are doing so much work. It's unbelievable how much every time you play how many improvements you see each day. Inside the the clubhouse looks great with the new paint and chairs and carpeting. They had a wedding. They had they've had a baby christening and different events out there already and looking forward to a good tournament season. That's about it. Second board except there's still concerns about the handicap [snorts] ramp at 13th Street. Do you know anything update on that? Yeah, we're we're actually probably be reaching out to our county executive to see what's going on. Our understanding from the contractor is that that handicap ramp was pulled out of the job. Uh we're not sure what's going on. So I know that our city engineer and deputy city manager working on a letter to our county executive right now just to get an update on that. Um there was also a set of stairs that were there. It was a set of stairs that county needed a ramp and we did actually let the county know that the handicap ramp location was probably that idea because a storm storm came through and damaged it. So they took it out. Our understanding is that they do not intend to replace the stairs at this time, but we're hearing that from the contractors and we're hearing actually from the county government. So we're going to get those updates from them. Yeah, so we're we're on Um also some information public works. Beach clean updates scheduled for this year will be May 30th, May, June 27th, July 25th, September 19th. The location will be 16th Street and Ocean Avenue at the city parking lot there is where you would meet up. Time will be 9:00 a.m. to register. If you have any questions, you can contact John Doreen at 266-7800. Also, the paper shredding events. Uh, the truck event will be May 30th and September 19th. The times are 9:00 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. Again, the location will be the 16th Street beach parking lot. We'll have a commercial document shredding truck on site also for secure document and all paper shredding. For information again, contact John Doreen at 266-7800. And Paul, I want to add too, I don't know if people realize, but the promenade, it's not actually owned by the city of Brigantine. It's actually owned by the county. It's county property. So, that's why we have to reach out to the county to see why those decisions were made. But, I heard the flagpole's coming. All right. Go down to Dennis. Thank you, Dennis. Plenty of activity on the 26th Street baseball and softball fields for the boys and girls this summer. I go down that street a lot. It's great to see. And as well as whatever activity's going on at the baseball field. Other than that, nothing of note for the third ward. Thank you. All right. Councilman Park. Eric, thank you. I know it's early, but mark your calendars. We have Memorial Day coming. We have the parade sponsored by the VFW on the 24th, Sunday. Step off at 5:00, I believe, but all of the charities on the island the VFW, the Elks, and the American Legion having events all weekend. Check check the times. While you're flipping through from Mike's phone number, you'll see the advertisements for everything going on that weekend, so Maddie's car wash. She's going to be at Bright Start. Maddie's car wash, yes. Sorry. That's >> this weekend? That is this weekend, uh Saturday. >> time is it? Does it start this weekend? Yes, copy. Do your car wash to support the Elks charities. Thank you, Mayor. Good afternoon. Of course, again, I'm going to thank the financial team for all your hard work. Guys did fantastic job with Allen going over everything with me. He knows I'm not that bright, so he explained in details how I was able to to grasp the happenings. Um I also want to thank our garden club uh volunteers. We've been hard at work getting ready for the summer season. Uh The Brigantine Island's Secret Garden Tour will be held on June 27th uh from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m., rain or shine. And uh you can pick up a list of the addresses that are on the uh Secret Garden Tour at either the farmers market that morning um where we'll have a tent set up or the Brigantine Community Center. Last but not least, I want to wish a speedy recovery for Mr. Bill Bennett. Um He's recovering at home from the hospital today. All the best. Mike. Thanks, Mayor. Thanks for everybody coming out tonight. I really appreciate it. Uh I want to thank Allen and uh everybody else and all the department heads for for doing the best we can this year. And I've been working with Leon now for the last 10 years. I know the excellent job that he does, and so Thank you. Uh other than that, the Cultural Arts Commission had a uh great uh day last Sunday at their Frank Sinatra dinner at the Cove upstairs. Great time had by all. Big crowd. And more things coming up. The Economic Development Commission, they're working on the uh 250th anniversary uh of the country. Here and there, we're going to have a few extra items going on. We'll have details out shortly. Uh we also have our 100th anniversary coming up. That's going to be after the summer. We're finalizing some things for that also. So, they're the two big events along with food truck festivals and stuff that we have once a month now is right here at Hanlon Park. Chamber Commerce is working hard. They have movies on the beach scheduled. Uh bonfire, great bonfire coming up. And that's that's about it, so. Any questions? You know where to find my number. Thank you. Thanks, Mike. I have a couple of updates to working with Brigantine. We've been working with Senator Polistina to get answers on why the delivery charges for South Jersey Gas are so high. You know, people are seeing like a 300% increase. And with other rising utilities, it's been out of control. Uh we've been back and forth with South Jersey Gas, requested information. Uh we had requested some specific details from them. Cuz some of the information they gave was kind of I think general. It was hard to kind of follow, so we asked for clarification and asked for some deeper detail on a few things. Uh put an update out the other day. Uh it's been about 2 months since they've responded. Uh they have reached out twice during that time. They kind of give an update and let us know that they're working on it, but the department who's responsible for compiling that information is very overwhelmed and unable to answer questions. We're trying to be patient, but you know, after a while it starts to get frustrating. So, we put that update out yesterday. I think with the I want to say public comment on that. South Jersey Gas reached out today and said we would have an answer by the end of the week. So, as soon as that information comes in, we'll let people know. But, they responded first thing this morning to apologize again for the delay and get us getting us the information. And that we will have all of the requested information by the end of the week. So, as soon as that comes in, I'm going to talk it over with the senator and his staff, and then we will share all the information and questions publicly. And as I said from the beginning, I think one of the most important things is understanding what the main factors are driving those rates up. Because once we understand what those factors are, then we can start to begin to put together a plan to bring relief. I know that this has been a big platform for our new governor, Governor Christine Gregoire. She's working on utility bills, and I'm hoping this is something that we can all work on together to try to bring relief. I know she's done a couple things in the state to try to get things under control. And I'm hoping through the senator that we'll be able to share the information that we find and some ideas we have on getting this done. Because affordability is a major issue in our state right now. So, we'll keep everybody posted. But again, they responded this morning to apologize for the delay, and that we will have the answers by the end of this week. So, we'll keep people posted either way. Uh next big thing is the state passed some changes when it comes to e-bikes. I know that this is in response to the request of a number of municipalities. A number of young people have gotten hurt and lost their lives on e-bikes. Uh so, the new regulations are out. They take effect this summer. Uh Chief, I know that you guys put some information out from the police department. Uh if you can continue to put stuff out on social media and stuff in the newspaper. I think my biggest concern too is one there's a lot of people who don't know that change has happened. Two, there's going to be people coming from out of state that might not have similar regulations so what they can expect. There's a lot of people who come here who do follow our social media. I think the biggest challenge too is there is not a lot of guidance from the state on how to make this work. I think one of the biggest issues is they're requiring insurance but to my knowledge no one's insuring anybody's right now. And I think there's also a license that they have to get as well, correct? Yeah, we just continue to to share what we know that there's changes coming but a lot of this is we still need guidance from the state. We just don't have that guidance. And I just think it makes it challenging. That's all. So we're doing the best we can but like Chief, is it true that there's no requirements, no rules and regulations applied to the e-bikes that are over 20 miles an hour more so for license and registration and have a throttle that that less than 20 mile an hour pedal assist bikes are not under that uh >> Skate as well. That's for now. And scooters. As of now it's required to wear helmets. Just so you know there's a lot of changes. Just want to at least start the discussion so people know this is coming. Cuz I don't want to be July and all of a sudden people are like I've never heard of something like this. So. Thank you very much. I appreciate Chief, also go online not everything obviously on there is gospel but they can seek some guidance just searching whatever they can find title 39 to right whatever is you know they can find up to date info at least search for up to date info. I know there's a good bit on there already. Like I said it's not gospel but Yeah, it's not gospel but search Right. Exactly. State this here. I'm sorry. Plus four is our residence reserves whoever. They they do have all of the special options or And the title of the 39 just to for clarity, that's one vehicle off of New Jersey Street. Thank And thank I appreciate it. It sounds like the department's on time. Uh other thing we want to talk about beach bathrooms, this has been a huge request for people. We are working on upgrading our beach bathrooms. The plan was to do four of them this summer. Uh there's a specific type of bathroom that we need to use out there. It's uh It's to meet all the requirements when it comes to ADA as well as being out there on the beach. When we looked at the cost of doing four, they were actually way more expensive than we realized. Our plan is to do two this summer, two next next summer, and start picking that off, but that is moving forward. The bathrooms are actually being constructed ahead of time. They will be brought in and dropped on site, but we're looking to have those in place by midsummer. We were hoping to have them for the start of the summer, but we won't, but they will be here midsummer, but we're going to continue to work on that as we move forward. Uh the other big thing, and this has kind of been hanging out there for a while, is the county's supposed to be doing a redesign of the lighthouse circle. Uh in short, the circle's not a circle, it's an obstructed roadway. Some people treat it like a circle, some people treat it like an obstructed roadway. The county wants to make it a real circle. Uh this has been in the design phase with the county for about 2 years. I know engineers move slow, but I don't know if they move that slow, so we're reaching out to the county to get an update on where this is. I've reached out to several of the county commissioners. They're also trying to get us updated on where this is and how we move forward on that. Uh but we want to keep people posted. But to kind of put this in perspective, this is three mayors in almost 20 years of trying to get this project done. You know, starting to worry, but we're 2 years into design, but uh, we're going to find out uh, what's going on with that and let people know uh, cuz the county said they would do it, so we need to get it done. We want to make sure that it's safe out there for everybody. So, we'll keep everybody posted. Yeah, the irony is when [clears throat] this first came When I first got on council, people talked about the issues with the circle and I said, "We can solve this problem by putting yield signs out there." I was told that the yield signs would not be DOT standards because it's not a true circle and if the city or the county put yield signs out there with it not being a circle and there was an accident, the city would then become liable for the accident cuz it doesn't meet the DOT standard. So, I'm just telling you what I was told. I feel like put a couple signs out there, real cheap fix, but we were told that we were not allowed to do that. So, the county is moving forward with a redesign of the circle to make it a real circle, so this way circle rule apply and I'm going to laugh if they just put yield signs out there after the circle cuz we could have just put signs, but it's not our road, it's the county road. So, we're working with them to to do what we need to do, but I think we need to make sure that this project keeps moving and gets done and the residents aren't waiting another 20 years, right? So, let's make sure we get this done. Uh, the other thing I'm going to talk about in the last update is uh, the pickleball and tennis courts. There was major damage to them over winter, a lot of cracking. We had a company come in, all the repairs were done. It looks absolutely beautiful, but I want people to know that this isn't the final bit. This is just to make sure that they're playable. We're also in the design phase for a full renovation of all of the outdoor recreational facilities out there. It's bocce ball, pickleball, tennis, hockey, and mini golf. So, we're working on that. Uh, we have some designs coming back in once we have internal approvals and working with our pickleball tennis ambassadors. We're going to hold a public meeting this summer. So one everyone who partakes in that can come out and take a look at it. Also two with the residents who live around there to make sure that things are up to their standards. So we're going to be putting in sound buffers to make sure this pickleball. I don't know if you guys have heard it but it's a constant noise back and forth. It has been major issues in other municipalities. We're going to do what we can to put in sound buffers to try to minimize that. So that'll be coming and we're moving forward on that. Once we have the design done the next part of that is we have to work on putting together the funding. As we've told people this is going to be a multi-year project. It's not something that's going to get done on once cuz yes we want to get it done but we want to make sure that um we're smart with how we spend money. So the first part of this is design, community input, and then we'll start to look at how we put together the funding to get that project done. All right. Got it. Um I know we're addressing the gas bills but some people are thinking about the electric bills but I think you're doing planning by addressing the gas bills first. And after that then you're going to attack it. Yeah, I think um you don't want to spread yourself too thin and I think it's important to start in one spot and get some answers and get some real movement. The other thing too is I think if we look at what's happening with the gas bills that may shed some insight into what's happening There's a lot going on and what's really amazing about this is that people from the tri-state area have reached out to me through social media to give ideas, suggestions, issues and things you should pay attention to and it's not just New Jersey issue. This is actually impacting people across the tri-state area and they want answers too. So I let people know that once we know this we will share this publicly because this does impact more than just, you know, Atlantic City Electric or South Jersey Gas customers. This is across the board. Uh some people also we focus a lot on South Jersey, but people from North Jersey people have also reached out to among those some of their elected officials and say, "Whatever you find, please send us because we're going to take up these issues with our local utilities as well." So, we'll keep everybody posted. And then some people are saying, "Well, my gas bills are dropping." That's because your usage is different. So, it doesn't mean that the gas company actually did anything. Just means you're using less this time because the weather is warm. And that's one of the things the gas company did share is that rates would come down around this time, but for the same reason because usage is down. The rates fall, drop when usage is high, the rates go up. Um So, we want to get clarification. I will tell you like they gave me and I'll almost say they gave me a number on what they said the rates went up. But it doesn't match what people are paying. So, I'm assuming I'm missing something. The numbers like the math doesn't match. So, I asked for that breakdown and how they can explain how this number equals this number. Right? So, we want to make sure and that's why I said the I don't with the frustration and anger that's out in the community, I don't want to put out information if it's not 100% accurate, if it's not clarified because I want to make sure that people have the truth. That's not fair to anybody to talk about. So, we're going to work our way through the process, get the correct information, and to share it publicly so this way people understand. And that's why I said the math doesn't match. Got to ask the question, give them the opportunity to answer that But, you know, once it gets out to public and people get an idea, people are just it's going to escalate. So, we want to make sure that we're focused on providing solutions, not just making people angry. Thank you. All All this time we're going to open it up for public comment. Anybody wishing to be heard, please come up, state your name and address for the record. Come on, Dad. Come on up. Talking about the uh My name is Frank Gonzalez, uh 605 Westshore Drive. I got a letter in the mail today from some company. I don't know who they are. They're saying if you don't sign up for them, you're going to be penalized. Your rates keep going up. If you sign up with them, they're going to hold your rates low. It didn't make sense. I don't know if anybody else got the letter or not. Is it from a utility company? I don't even know the name of the company. They say they're not involved with the Atlantic the America area the Atlantic gas. But uh I don't know. I didn't even underst- A private contractor or a propane company, but once you bring the letter in, we'll look at it because If I still have it. >> Don't sign up for anything yet. Just bring it Yeah, I just wanted to let you know, okay? Yeah, thank you. I know with electricity, you can shop the rates. I don't know if it's the same for gas. >> bill's staying down cuz I got the solar panels. It's keeping it down. Yeah. That's perfect. Thanks. Yes, this folks. Ann H. Lopes, 308 27th Street. Um just a comment on the budget. I know it was passed and I that was not not unexpected. And this has come up before, but looking over it, it was interesting to see that the city's revenues have increased almost $2 million over last year. And you're leaving almost $5 and million dollars in the surplus out of 9.5 million dollars that was in the surplus. It's interesting to note that over the years the city always has a large surplus at the end of the year. And they use maybe 40 some percent in the budget. And it's practice I think that they call conservative and certainly up conservative. But I wonder if this at this practice because by leaving so much in that surplus to carry it over, the taxpayers have to come across to pick up what is extra you know, extra expenses. So I just wanted to make that point and I see the auditors here and he definitely doesn't agree with what I'm saying. But in terms of um you know, the taxpayer and how much taxpayer it has to make up when you're carrying such a large surplus. So that's just my comment and I hope you do think something about it, but um I know your practice through the years has just been the opposite. You keep a large surplus a surplus. So but anyway, just something to think about when we all have to pay our taxes. Thank you. Thanks Mrs. Fields. I was just going to say that the strong surplus it also helps our bond rating as well, which in turn saves money. Still leaving. Surplus to start. Good evening. Good night. But nothing has changed. Something that I wanted to say. >> Yeah, I just want to point out just one fact here. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening. Um, Ashley Kitten, 4200 Atlantic Brigantine Boulevard. Good evening, everybody. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to come out and speak to you all tonight. So, as said, I'm Ashley Kitten. I'm here on behalf of um our four-unit condo association, and we're here tonight to talk a little bit about us struggling to understand um some necessity and fairness around a requirement in a letter that we received, but I do want to first state that um we have had some communication back and forth, and this was a prepared statement, so I'll I'll get to that at the end as well. So, um we were informed that uh a state requirement tied to emergency access was uh affording us the necessity to move a water meter. However, based on our understanding, water meters can currently be read electronically, and each property has a shutoff valve located at our curb currently. So, if that's the case, we're respectfully asking what specific emergency scenarios require the meter itself to be re- relocated from our current crawl space area to the curb. And after review of cited ordinances, we understand that the city has the right to access our meters for inspection, and under certain circumstances has the authority to temporarily shut off our residential water. Um the city currently has the ability to access the meter in our crawl space. It's just not the preferred location, which we understand. We fail to see in other ordinances where the city has the legal ability to mandate this relocation of meters or shut off our water for non-compliance, which the letter that we received stated, especially in a building of 30 years plus age, which ours is. Um, further, after reviewing additional ordinances, we understand this requirement exists for potential new constructions, but construction, but fail to see the clear language requiring meters to be at the curve for existing properties. Additionally, there seems to be some inconsistent communication regarding whether or not the meter for this project would be provided by public works or not and the ownership of the current meter. So, the cost of the materials for us would be approximately $2,300 and we're receiving quotes for the movement of this in excess of $5,000. So, um, that's why I'm here on behalf of the four of us saying that this is a really undue hardship and we're being faced with that significant unexpected financial burden with that compliance listed in 90 days. So, given all of that, we're respectfully asking, what are the specific ordinances guiding this? Um, why is this being enforced in a way that appears inconsistent with written code? On what legal basis is the threat the city threatening to um, cut off our essential water for non-compliance? And if you are legally allowed to require the movement, why must we as the homeowners bear the the full financial cost? And additionally, would the old meter responsibility remain with the city as we believe that it should. So, I I want to thank everybody that has spoken with me today because I've spoken with many of you. I appreciate the phone calls, the conversations, um, and your ability and your willingness to be collaborative. Um, I want to make sure that you know that we are not here to be adversarial, that we just want to get to a resolution and it seems like we're working towards that. I just felt it really important to be here and have this discussion. Absolutely. Thank you. All right, so we are working towards a resolution. I'm going to turn it over to our deputy manager, Ryan Hurst, because I know she's been working with you on this issue. Hi Ashley, thank you so much for coming tonight for your time on the floor. I spoke with you earlier. Um so, we want to let you know first and foremost that at this point we aren't uh going to push the 90-day we're not viewing you as being in compliance because you have contacted us and we are going to work something out. Um as far as the ownership, um we do have to go over that with our attorney um and he's here tonight. He's aware of the situation um we would like to discuss it further I really appreciate that. Thank you. Again, your willingness, your ability, and your your phone calls back and forth. So, thank you for addressing it here while I'm here. Thank you. Thanks for coming. If there's no other further public comment, all right, we'll close the public portion. Any final council comments? Seeing none, we have a motion and second for adjournment. I'll make that motion. Second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Seeing none, motion passed. Thank you for coming out and watching your council team at work. Good night, everybody. And to all our mothers out there, happy Mother's Day. This weekend, don't forget. Everybody, don't forget it's Mother's Day.